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the success and failure of arguments
countering alternative cosmologies

What a Crock

[sent 12 Aug 2008]

From jno@XXXX Mon
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 18:28:17 -0500 (CDT)
To: c.leroy.ellenberger@XXXX
From: jno 
Subject: Re: Meteors

HI;

I think Clube and Napier's meteors are just a crock. Nothing is proven, no
evidence need to be brought forward or will be found, yet it seems to
cover the inexplicable mythology of the remote past (and ignoring six
changes in the Earth's orbit). 

And what is the pressing need to do so (three books!) except that there is
a remote suspicion on their part that Talbot and Velikovsky might be
correct.

I have much better evidence of giant 'meteor' swarms (they will be
asteroids) for the period of 32,000 to 10,000 BC -- in graphic depictions
and numbers, including inter-asteroid arcing!

Quoted from your email, this is another lovely one: 

	"... how Phaethon's "ride" and fall can be explained in terms of a
post-perihelion comet on an Encke-like orbit (and accompanying debris)
encountering Earth at sunrise and passing very closely BEHIND us such that
it would appear to rise for five hours, then appear to stand still for
half an hour while doubling in diameter and then crashing to the horizon
in 15 minutes."

Phaethon's ride (despite Ovid's poetry) took 40 days, from June 15 through
July 25, 685 BC (Gregorian seasonal dates). Pick that out from the
Sibylline Star Wars document. The data is duplicated in the Chilam Balam, 
which in fact supplies the 40 day interval.

Kobres is full of shit. It is I who can "account for all aspects of the
Phaethon story with [a] physical model" -- see my website.

/jno


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